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newbie needs advice

Postby scrapper » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:24 am

Hello- Glad I found this site. HELP! I am completely new to copters but planing a purchase and training in the spring. I will lay my situation out and am thankful for any insights /comments.
In just a coupled of weeks study I am convinced the Brantly is the right for me. Low cost, simpler and solid machine. I need the craft to travel in an aprox 60-70 mile radius, occasionally 90 miles for work and. I will probably use it 15-20 hours / week.

I have 6 months to appraise my options.

1) What is important in looking at used models?
2) I am 210, does adding a passenger especially slow it down?
3) How much baggage can be stowed?
4) Can a 110# woman and a 60# kid be squeezed in the passenger seat? Or is that a no ,no.
5) If my hanger doesn’t get built for 4 months is it harmful to store it outside, on blocks and tied down of course.

6) Is there a risk a Brantly loses all value if the Chinese based company can’t make a come back?

7) Does anyone have an opinion on the proposed new model with a Superior engine?

Or----tell me what I should be asking!! Innocent here.

Thanks,Scrapper
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Re: newbie needs advice

Postby scrapper » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:30 am

sorry about the multi posts. a few other things
1) where could I learn about the “rules of the road” proper protocol of setting down in rural area, or what is allowed in an emergency. An so on.
2) Thinking ahead to building a hanger. I will house this craft on a farm, is there a preferable direction to face the door considering prevailing winds? And in general for take off, is it preferable to head into prevailing winds? About how much distance is needed to have comfortable take off, with 350 #s of passengers and 100 in baggage?
3) Can you land in snow 8 inches deep?
4) Suggestions for hanger design?

Thanks and I apologize for being so naive, trying to get a handle on all of this.

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Re: newbie needs advice

Postby Ron Spiker » Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:44 pm

1. Besides overall looks and condition, a thorough prebuy inspection and review of the log books, preferably by an A&P of your choosing. The B-2B models are newer and frequently have more upgrades done than the B-2 or B-2A.
2. No
3. 50 pounds
4. No. It is a 2-place helicopter, so max 2 people only.
5. Not suggested to do this. If you do, get a full set of covers for it to protect it as much as possible.
6. There's always a risk in losing value. We hope that isn't the case though.
7. The possibilities of a more powerful superior engine is exciting. We can only hope that comes to pass.

scrapper wrote:Hello- Glad I found this site. HELP! I am completely new to copters but planing a purchase and training in the spring. I will lay my situation out and am thankful for any insights /comments.
In just a coupled of weeks study I am convinced the Brantly is the right for me. Low cost, simpler and solid machine. I need the craft to travel in an aprox 60-70 mile radius, occasionally 90 miles for work and. I will probably use it 15-20 hours / week.

I have 6 months to appraise my options.

1) What is important in looking at used models?
2) I am 210, does adding a passenger especially slow it down?
3) How much baggage can be stowed?
4) Can a 110# woman and a 60# kid be squeezed in the passenger seat? Or is that a no ,no.
5) If my hanger doesn’t get built for 4 months is it harmful to store it outside, on blocks and tied down of course.

6) Is there a risk a Brantly loses all value if the Chinese based company can’t make a come back?

7) Does anyone have an opinion on the proposed new model with a Superior engine?

Or----tell me what I should be asking!! Innocent here.

Thanks,Scrapper
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Re: newbie needs advice

Postby Ron Spiker » Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:50 pm

1. Federal Avaition Regulations (FARs) to start with.
2. You always want to take off into the wind if possible. Sometimes obstacles or other circumstances prevent this, but the wind on your nose is your friend. The distance will vary depending on many things. Besides your overall weight, the density altitude, winds, power available, etc. 100 lbs in baggage is overweight. 50 lbs is the max allowed in the Brantly.
3. You *can* (its possible), but highly recommended NOT to. You don't always know what's under there. Good way to get into dynamic rollover on lift-off. In my opinion a rather dangerous move, all things considered.
4. T-hangar or box hangar both work.

scrapper wrote:sorry about the multi posts. a few other things
1) where could I learn about the “rules of the road” proper protocol of setting down in rural area, or what is allowed in an emergency. An so on.
2) Thinking ahead to building a hanger. I will house this craft on a farm, is there a preferable direction to face the door considering prevailing winds? And in general for take off, is it preferable to head into prevailing winds? About how much distance is needed to have comfortable take off, with 350 #s of passengers and 100 in baggage?
3) Can you land in snow 8 inches deep?
4) Suggestions for hanger design?

Thanks and I apologize for being so naive, trying to get a handle on all of this.

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Re: newbie needs advice

Postby scrapper » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:58 pm

Ron , Much Thanks you ahev been very generiosu with me.

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Re: B2B for sale

Postby HELISCAN » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:09 pm

Just thought I would give you a heads up on my B2B. Worth $75K, will sell for $65K. Must see and fly to believe. This is a one of a kind custum, all 337 approved. If close to Chattanooga, will consider a partnership. Ask Bryan Cobb or Harold Jenkins.

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Re: newbie needs advice

Postby 9121u » Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:18 pm

HI there new one. if your looking for a really nice helicopter call GARY GOLDSBERRY. i have seen his.. their really nice has like 5 or 6 out there IN INDIANA. he also has spare parts if you would need theme.these helicopters are a little hard to get some one to work on theme.you'll have to call Harold J .IN Oklahoma for that.nice guy to talk to have fun buying. tom
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Re: newbie needs advice

Postby scrapper » Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:53 pm

THX. I am a bit ahead of myself, I need 1-2 things to come together and am planning on spring. I absolutely have the bug though and want to be a part of teh "cult!"i. I will base it in NE PA. Silver is classy. And I have uncovered Gary G., seems like he is "Mr Brantly."

From reading I sense that demand was strong in the boom but there are quite a few for sale these days? Unlevering era I guess. Odd, i have been in touch by phone or email with 4 people just gathering info, but all have theirs for sale! l Even though the Brantly may be the bargain way to go I know this is not an inexpensive addiction. I will be less looking to dicker, more interested in quality, condition and low hours

Another area I need help with in my planning is getting n idea of how much space is needed for a takeoff area, hanger et al.
The base is farmland, but I am trying to think through the qualifications- flat, opening to prevailing stretch- but not far off a road. How much
distance is needed before 25 ft apple trees need to be cleared etc.

Might anyone have a link to a physical set-up plan?.

Our 1999 Chysler Van has 160k miles on and it goes and goes with minimal cost/maintenance. Is it a 'copter with all the stress, heavy props, the power to lift it in the air- is that waht makes them so maintainence needy/costly? Seems like over time, new materials, more reliable engines, fuel injection and so on would reduce repair/maintenance but not it seems. Comments?
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Re: newbie needs advice

Postby scrapper » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:07 pm

also, by chance I have located a experiended Brantly mechanic and owner very near the area where I will house the craft.
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Re: newbie needs advice

Postby 9121u » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:53 pm

hay scrapper may i ask Ho your mechanic is. i am looking for one close to me. or i got to go to Oklahoma.its a long way from here in pa.you can call me 724-535-5689 if you don't want to post his name thanks. tom
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